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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Serbanescu in [TWITTER] "..."   
    Ohh maybe The Universim is the prequel to the real God game... The nuggets destroy themselve and start praying...
     
    To quote the Black & White intro text:
     
    A land of innocence has no need for a god until faith intervenes.
    When people pray a god is always born. Able to change eternity.
    That god is you.
    Are you a blessing or a curse?
    Good or Evil?
    Be what you will. You are destiny.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Serbanescu in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
     
    Sorry i need to grin here. May I ask when you discovered The Universim? This game was funded on Kickstarter 24th May 2014... soooo... It's 1457 days in development which are... 3 Years,  11 Months and 26 Days  (today included). My personal confidence in some people at Crytivo has melted down during this long period. Some others are really engaged and I appreciate their work.
     
    Granted. Everyone has his or her own preferences. But god mail is boring in my opinion and does not fit in a god and worshipper context. There are more elegant ways of doing it. Like prayer thought bubbles above the nuggets heads to indicate a prayer. But that's my preference.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from threeheaded monkey in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    Oh i would be a loving and caring god. Of course only to those who obey. I don't demand much.  They can do what they please. They don't need to ask about most things. They are my beloved children. They don't even need to pray in a temple to me. No. I'm not that small minded. I feel their love for me everywhere.  The one thing i demand is peace, love and harmony between all my creatures.
    Otherwise I'll kill them all merciless in an apocalyptic bloodbath and start over again. This hurts me more than them of course. They are still my loved children. But some things have to be done...   Fresh and clean.  
     
    A government of course is blasphemous. I'm there to guide my nuggets. If they form a government... They don't trust me. They think they can make better decisions than I could. It's like a Kickstarter funded Company that does not trust its funders and demands some kind of contract in exchange for some information. Wouldn't that be sad? Yes it would be really sad and worth a Battle Royale of course. Some things can't be tolerated. 
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Serbanescu in Twitch Live Stream Q&A [OUTDATED but if you still want to answer....]   
    Who needs new information... All those informations will destroy suspense. And they want to keep the suspense and surprise for the Steam release and the rating system there.
     
    A NDA is needed for sure... And everyone willing to test the steam build before release should be sued to his bones if he or she breaks the NDA and destroy the suspense for the other players. It would be a shame to know something about changes and development progress in an crowdfunded game.
     
    sarcasm
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Coco in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    It's a standard thing for developers that develop games with their own money. Sure. But the community made this project come to life. So if you want an nda what is your consequence of breaking a nda? do you want to sue the community? It's a simple "Can we trust you" question and answer. Nothing more, nothing less. We trustet you by supporting this game in kickstarter and you do not trust the community of the game in return?
     
     
    This ist the problem A selected group gives feedback. Who choses? Are those more rts style players, or people that prefer the original and advertised god game concept. To clarify it... most people on twitter voted for more buildings. we all know introducing only new buildings without changing gameplay is useless and a straw fire. So if you want constructive feedback all of the community should be heard. 
     
    Edit: You do not promote your Forum as first adress for information in the "big updates and news annoucements. only facebook and twitter..."
     
    Edit 2: https://theuniversim.com/micro-to-macro-nugget-automation the newest update shows most things you will introduce in august. new buldings, old gameplay... So this game will develop more to a rts strategy game with resource management instead of a god game. god game features like god mail and god missions are only a "oh right... we advertised it as god game" excuse. even cities skylines has natural disasters you can trigger at your will. does that make this game a god game as well? You get the point. soulution would be... don't advertise it as god game any longer or change something fundamental.
     
     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from AceOfSpadez in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    @Magecoerlin So please answer this short Question. With NDA... would you sue somebody from the Community that breaks the NDA because it's an affront against the transparency?
     
    Yes Or No? Only Yes Or No. Simple answer, simple Question.
     
    Would you sue your community? Yes or No?
     
    This will be the main promotional thing for you. Crytivo... The kickstarted company that is willing to sue it's supporters because of NDA violations. This "Could" be the logic headline if you insist on having a NDA. If you're not willing to sue your community members if they break the NDA, a NDA is useless. And suing your community is a really bad pr stunt. We're not employees with a pay check from Crytivo. We´re the ones that made Crytivo possible at all. All backers. Kickstarter backers first and all other backers later. 
     
    Quick Edit: Bug reporting was made possible ingame. So the forum is not needed for bug reporting...  and as @amigacooke mentioned... YOU promoted Discord as the main communication channel... Even pinned to your twitter account on top... not main promotion for the forum... main promotion for Discord...
     
     
    Edit 2:
     
    A description of what is planned would be okay. We're not the twitter community that reacts to shiny pictures with a like button. We can read and think   and no... you're not pulling away suspense. There should be no suspense at all for the god game gamplay. This is a simple excuse for not wanting to talk about what is planned. Will the godly gameplay be empowering? Is god mail still a thing? Is god degraded to simple missions? Does god still watch nuggets being slaughtered by wild animals in the future without the chance of doing anything? Yes, The Universim was kickstarded and advertised as: "The Universim is a next generation Planet Management God - Game in development by Crytivo Games and designed by Alex Koshelkov." Original Kickstarter short text. What do we have? Planet management? no... nugget management yes. God game? not at all. The Universim is not unique. It's a management game that introduces questionable gameplay mechanics like stone huts that need repair after short time... engineers in the stoneage...those "buldings need repair" things were only introduced to keep people busy... micromanagement. it does not make sense. 
     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Coco in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    It's a standard thing for developers that develop games with their own money. Sure. But the community made this project come to life. So if you want an nda what is your consequence of breaking a nda? do you want to sue the community? It's a simple "Can we trust you" question and answer. Nothing more, nothing less. We trustet you by supporting this game in kickstarter and you do not trust the community of the game in return?
     
     
    This ist the problem A selected group gives feedback. Who choses? Are those more rts style players, or people that prefer the original and advertised god game concept. To clarify it... most people on twitter voted for more buildings. we all know introducing only new buildings without changing gameplay is useless and a straw fire. So if you want constructive feedback all of the community should be heard. 
     
    Edit: You do not promote your Forum as first adress for information in the "big updates and news annoucements. only facebook and twitter..."
     
    Edit 2: https://theuniversim.com/micro-to-macro-nugget-automation the newest update shows most things you will introduce in august. new buldings, old gameplay... So this game will develop more to a rts strategy game with resource management instead of a god game. god game features like god mail and god missions are only a "oh right... we advertised it as god game" excuse. even cities skylines has natural disasters you can trigger at your will. does that make this game a god game as well? You get the point. soulution would be... don't advertise it as god game any longer or change something fundamental.
     
     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Coco in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
     
    As I said... Spoiling is no reason. If the feature is great... everybody is hyped for August. If the feature is worth discussing about it it's probably even better. But the last "Surprise" was hidden easter eggs or something else. That's not worth an NDA.

    Let the community decide if they want to know or not. Mark Topics with Spoiler warnigs if the secret feature is so unique and only a one time surprise. If it is a good game update... Everyone would love to know about it.
     
    You know my point of view Alex. The community was there from the beginning and they want to support the game and The Universim needs to be a success we all want. But some decisions in the past simply don't feel right. We had this over and over again. Why do you think you need to decide what the community wants to know and what not?
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    Kerby84 reacted to AceOfSpadez in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
     
    Ok I will share some of my insight. Sorry for plugging a different game here but it is needed for the comparison. 

    I am a avid player, and sometimes streamer of the biggest crowdfunded game/kickstarter game in history, Star Citizen. Star Citizen thrives on streamers and word of mouth to get the game spread through the interwebs. It is a open alpha game currently, same as this. When they release new patches they have it set up in a certain way which you currently are close to. They have their internal team, the first wave of testers (like your external QA team) 2nd wave of testers (mostly those who forked out the most money or has been apart of it the longest) and then the 3rd wave of testers (streamers and hardcore players) before releasing each patch to the public. Now the first wave is to make sure there are no game breaking bugs, and if they are what are they doing to break the game/system. Highest risk since it has the potential to brick a PC. And the first wave of public QA testers are the only ones that cant say anything. Once it hits the 2nd wave of public backer testing its wide open, because they use streamers and hardcore gamers to showcase what they are working on, improvements they are making, and stress testing the game/servers which just adds more fuel to the hype fire. The more people see a object become shinier and more fun to play with the more people say, that looks great I want to try it. Hell I backed this game from watching JackSepticEye play it on his youtube channel and thought hey this looks like a new Black and White meets Spore, you get to play god then colonize other planets THATS AWESOME!! I was hooked. Your public appearance is what draws people in, so allowing us to blab about it and show people look at this shiny new toy, or mechanic, or chaos. For a kickstarter game this is pretty crucial, because your public appearance and how people see you and your game development being open to them since they are funding your creation. 
     
    Side edit, the pushing the discord for the main source of feedback and communication is lackluster to say the least. The biggest CF games use forums and "ON SITE" (website) chat to communicate. I get a lot of people are migrating to discord because the voice feature but that is a more public forum for communication and not a local one that can easily be overrun and misled by people who have yet to back the game, or even test/play it. Forums are hands down the best for people who really care about communicating with the dev team as well as other gamers sharing the same issues or thoughts. Also, moving the main announcements from the forums of updates and patch notes to discord and twitter shows us that you are caring less about what we think and say, even though we have been giving the most support. It shows you want to show off to the open public what you are adding, or what they think you should add before asking the people who have been providing feedback and communicating with your team the issues here, which can make it muddled, because people who have yet to play the game can say ohh that sounds cool I want to see that even if it doesn't fit or isn't necessary for the game.
     
    Just like currently I have some kind of issue with this game where I can't play the game for more that 15 minutes before the game crashes and resets my computer, which kills the stream and any kind of movement I had going to showcase it. And, this bug has been shrugged off on me like I was doing something wrong. This is a game ending bug for me that makes the game unplayable in its current state, and now I cant play it until your next release in August. It's terrible. I have been keenly invested in how this game progresses, putting input on broken AI, flawed systems, game ending bugs and crashes, and contributing to polls and questions presented in these forums.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from AceOfSpadez in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    @Magecoerlin So please answer this short Question. With NDA... would you sue somebody from the Community that breaks the NDA because it's an affront against the transparency?
     
    Yes Or No? Only Yes Or No. Simple answer, simple Question.
     
    Would you sue your community? Yes or No?
     
    This will be the main promotional thing for you. Crytivo... The kickstarted company that is willing to sue it's supporters because of NDA violations. This "Could" be the logic headline if you insist on having a NDA. If you're not willing to sue your community members if they break the NDA, a NDA is useless. And suing your community is a really bad pr stunt. We're not employees with a pay check from Crytivo. We´re the ones that made Crytivo possible at all. All backers. Kickstarter backers first and all other backers later. 
     
    Quick Edit: Bug reporting was made possible ingame. So the forum is not needed for bug reporting...  and as @amigacooke mentioned... YOU promoted Discord as the main communication channel... Even pinned to your twitter account on top... not main promotion for the forum... main promotion for Discord...
     
     
    Edit 2:
     
    A description of what is planned would be okay. We're not the twitter community that reacts to shiny pictures with a like button. We can read and think   and no... you're not pulling away suspense. There should be no suspense at all for the god game gamplay. This is a simple excuse for not wanting to talk about what is planned. Will the godly gameplay be empowering? Is god mail still a thing? Is god degraded to simple missions? Does god still watch nuggets being slaughtered by wild animals in the future without the chance of doing anything? Yes, The Universim was kickstarded and advertised as: "The Universim is a next generation Planet Management God - Game in development by Crytivo Games and designed by Alex Koshelkov." Original Kickstarter short text. What do we have? Planet management? no... nugget management yes. God game? not at all. The Universim is not unique. It's a management game that introduces questionable gameplay mechanics like stone huts that need repair after short time... engineers in the stoneage...those "buldings need repair" things were only introduced to keep people busy... micromanagement. it does not make sense. 
     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from The golden archangel in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    So to sum it up again. I think this topic was needed the time i wrote it because of a felt lack of communication and an unsure path of development direction. Since then things have changed for the better thanks to @Sasha. I appreciate his community contact a lot and the community gave good feedback to the research topic.
     
    Nevertheless the old question remains. It would be interesting to know what is planned for the godly gameplay aspect of the game.
    That's a simple question and waiting is no solution. We're a community that cares about the game and want this game to be a success. Once released on Steam platform (planned for August), customers buy the game and immedialy judge it for its actual gameplay at this point. Steam has a refund policy. I doubt Crytivo would be happy about many refunds they have trough Steam.
     
    Maybe I'm more frightened than the devs about the possibility of Steam ruining the game, could be true... But I think being honest and open during development (No Alex, that does not mean you're unhonest  as developer) is good in every way. @Sasha shared Ideas and i'ts great. And @Alex Koshelkov asked too about Micromanagement. That's really great. Thanks. 
     
    The devs see the universim as their child. In this analogy we're the uncles and aunts caring as much of the baby as the parents. Sure the parents have the main work to do but uncles and aunts want to be informed about the grow up process of the child and maybe discuss about some educational issues before the child is thrown into the kindergarten.
     
    A caring uncle. 
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from threeheaded monkey in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    Oh i would be a loving and caring god. Of course only to those who obey. I don't demand much.  They can do what they please. They don't need to ask about most things. They are my beloved children. They don't even need to pray in a temple to me. No. I'm not that small minded. I feel their love for me everywhere.  The one thing i demand is peace, love and harmony between all my creatures.
    Otherwise I'll kill them all merciless in an apocalyptic bloodbath and start over again. This hurts me more than them of course. They are still my loved children. But some things have to be done...   Fresh and clean.  
     
    A government of course is blasphemous. I'm there to guide my nuggets. If they form a government... They don't trust me. They think they can make better decisions than I could. It's like a Kickstarter funded Company that does not trust its funders and demands some kind of contract in exchange for some information. Wouldn't that be sad? Yes it would be really sad and worth a Battle Royale of course. Some things can't be tolerated. 
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    Kerby84 reacted to threeheaded monkey in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    First off, cause I've missed that, thank you Colin for taking the time to introduce yourself here. It's highly appreciated that at least SOMEONE is willing to participate.
    ( Yeah, I'm talking to you, Sasha! )
     
     
    So let's talk about the numbers: There are over 40.000 people who have been supporting  the Universim during Kickstarter and via online shop.
    The Universim has 7.600 followers on Twitter, no idea about facebook though;  7.600 people of which we don't even know if they are supporters at all.
    Close to 600 people have been voting in the end: (Until now, I see the poll is still going on)
     
    600 people out of 40.000. Not exactly a very trustworthy basis,hm?
     
    EDIT: Just see that someone was(finally) updating Kickstarter. Thanks to whoever did this!
     
    EDIT2: Ok, maybe I could have been more precise in the op. The idea was  to start a conversation about that in the first place, letting the studio know how others think about it as well. I think it's not just important for the game and thus the company, but also for those people you are having the game on their steam wishlist for years now, unsure what they can expect of the Universim.
    Sayin' that we gonna like what you are working on, that we have to trust you and that it's worth the wait, is not enough imo. Also you can't promise that for sure.
    I have been playing games for more than thirtyfive years now, so I think my oppinion is useful, but not just for you.
    Yeah, I'm not a YAY-sayer, even when I like the look of the game and all the concept art out there; I'd rather talk about things I don't like, cause that's helpful!
     
    Just think about this again; please, otherwise I fear that the whole thing is going to blow up right into your faces when released on steam.
     
     
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    Kerby84 reacted to threeheaded monkey in [TWITTER] "..."   
     
    The one you are talking with.
    Right after that , y'know.
    After ruining my civilization by poisening my nuggets  with all that usless stuff.
    Just to start from scratch on another planet.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from threeheaded monkey in [TWITTER] "..."   
    Right direction? For what?  In search for a god in this god game planet management sim? Somewhere out there is a god. Maybe. And we can trade funny coloured spices with them for different prices.   While the nuggets remaining on mother planet watch ads in the cinema. Powered by Google Adsense. ;-)
     
    Imagine a game in which every player is a real world customer we could show ads. Wouldn't it be great to see your favorite brands ingame? Coca Cola, McDonalds, Burger King... everyone should be able to buy into the game and buy ads. The days when nuggets harvested food are over. They go to Burger King or simply eat at Subway and watch Neflix to relax after a hard day on the defense tower to protect the nugget civilization from wild animals and Dinosaurs. All those brands... WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT?
     
     
     

     
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    Kerby84 reacted to amigacooke in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
     
    I'd suggest not having an enormous Discord banner that tries to divert users straight off the site as soon as they arrive.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Frosty4k in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    ... I'm too kinda... Twitter is easy to handle but not your own forum?  So Twitter is the main channel now and not the official forum? Okay... good to know... And of course most people from twitter said "more buildings". Sure... fast content fix. "bread and games for the masses" But burns out like straw fire. it's not the quantity it's the quality that matters.
    Buldings are not gameplay content. That's what people forget. Spore had many buildings... You could customize every bulding in every way. But the gameplay behind it was soon really boring.
     
    What buldings could be planned... Oil well... oil refinery... wind power...  mining for iron, gold, copper, uranium... and refineries to all those products... repetitive and a micromanaging trap.
     
    Regarding the god aspect of the game...
     
    A suggestion... A god game with god mail is... somehow artificial and ungodly. It feels like  "oh we forgot to implement the god aspect of the game... what about a god mail and some missions for it"
     
    Crumble the idea and give it back to Bruce Almighty.
     
    If you still want "The Universim" to be a god game... and want to establish a connection between player and nugget - you need to find a more organic way. maybe thinking bubbles above the heads of the nuggets that indicate a prayer or something else. And for nuggets sake... a better godly interaction. Basic buldings of a god game should always be a temple or something else for prayer power and worship. Some interactions should be completely free like picking up resources and some others like  rain and such kind of things which are creating powers should be really cheap... it's the basic interaction of a god in his world... or you could introduce a area of influence thing in which you can perform miracles for free and the more away from a temple or whatever the higher the cost is.
     
    basic idea behind it. a god game should provide the player with all elemental options to protect or enslave the people. Till now the nuggets care for their own safety. god is not needed. God is just a gimmick in this game.
     
    God should be able to kill wild animals (in area of influence) with ease and protect nuggets. god should be able to gather resources in an elegant way and not throwing it into the orbit   and so on....

     
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    Kerby84 reacted to threeheaded monkey in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    I won't find any time this summer anyway,so...
    But as for the NDA..
     
    I'm not quite sure what you guys at Crytivo are afraid of? How are you going to make sure that the broad audience is happy about said features?
    The steam people will know when it's released, but what about the early supporters?
     I already was paying solid money for this project, just to make it happen and I want it to be a success after all, but I also would like to speak openly about the progress telling the people wether I like it or not and why.
    I can't for the sake of it comprehend in which way this would harm the game and probably the release on steam.
     
    But it's your business, not mine. And I'm a "customer", not an employee.
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Izar_Morghuliz in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    .... Yes a NDA makes so much sense in a community funded game ... Think about the consequences... Would you sue your own community that build you up because somebody is telling something? Would you? Yes? Great PR for you... You would not? So why is an NDA needed at all?
     
     
    Surprises can't be spoiled. If they're really good you enjoy them over and over again. If they're a one time laugh... They're not a surprise. 
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    Kerby84 reacted to AceOfSpadez in Closed steam pre-release. Yes or no? [EDITED]   
    Ya had me until NDA
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    Kerby84 reacted to threeheaded monkey in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    Ooof. I must have been dreaming. It was a good dream though. 
    There was this game, which made me being a mighty god. And there were little people around staring at me full of awe.
    But just  as I wanted to unleash all of my power the dream ended all in a sudden; and here I am, sitting in front of my desk four years later...
    Did I miss a thing?
     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Lissa Gloom in Research Prototype Panel   
     
    Elu is depressed because her hair is too long. She looks like any other Nugget. In an enlightened dream a vision came to her mind. What if there was a place Nuggets could go to cut their hair and talk about the newest gossip. After waking up she yelled at her husband. "Build me a place where I can go to get my hair cut and talk about your bad performance in bed." Adahy rolled with his eyes and prayed to god... "Please punish my nemisis or at least build her a hair salon."
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Frosty4k in Still A God Game Or A Buliding Simulation Strategy Game   
    ... I'm too kinda... Twitter is easy to handle but not your own forum?  So Twitter is the main channel now and not the official forum? Okay... good to know... And of course most people from twitter said "more buildings". Sure... fast content fix. "bread and games for the masses" But burns out like straw fire. it's not the quantity it's the quality that matters.
    Buldings are not gameplay content. That's what people forget. Spore had many buildings... You could customize every bulding in every way. But the gameplay behind it was soon really boring.
     
    What buldings could be planned... Oil well... oil refinery... wind power...  mining for iron, gold, copper, uranium... and refineries to all those products... repetitive and a micromanaging trap.
     
    Regarding the god aspect of the game...
     
    A suggestion... A god game with god mail is... somehow artificial and ungodly. It feels like  "oh we forgot to implement the god aspect of the game... what about a god mail and some missions for it"
     
    Crumble the idea and give it back to Bruce Almighty.
     
    If you still want "The Universim" to be a god game... and want to establish a connection between player and nugget - you need to find a more organic way. maybe thinking bubbles above the heads of the nuggets that indicate a prayer or something else. And for nuggets sake... a better godly interaction. Basic buldings of a god game should always be a temple or something else for prayer power and worship. Some interactions should be completely free like picking up resources and some others like  rain and such kind of things which are creating powers should be really cheap... it's the basic interaction of a god in his world... or you could introduce a area of influence thing in which you can perform miracles for free and the more away from a temple or whatever the higher the cost is.
     
    basic idea behind it. a god game should provide the player with all elemental options to protect or enslave the people. Till now the nuggets care for their own safety. god is not needed. God is just a gimmick in this game.
     
    God should be able to kill wild animals (in area of influence) with ease and protect nuggets. god should be able to gather resources in an elegant way and not throwing it into the orbit   and so on....

     
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Serbanescu in Research Prototype Panel   
    Yes... Incest... Fun for the whole family.  
     
     
    Yes. Why not? I'd implement such kind of things in a god game. It's funny, it's not the same as in every other game and you could have the option to kill elu and never invent a hair salon. At least for a long time.   That would be unique. Every game would be different. I was kinda hoping, that the (long long time ago) announced live news system would allow such kind of user generated quests or content... beside some premade main content events and quests.
     
    Imagine Elu with a hair salon bubble over her head... You pick her up... Put her on a sacrifice altar for everybody to see... Nobody would ask you for a hair salon after Elu dissolves into dust there. "Don't bother God with your personal bad hair day moments:" 
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    Kerby84 got a reaction from Serbanescu in Research Prototype Panel   
    Yes... Incest... Fun for the whole family.  
     
     
    Yes. Why not? I'd implement such kind of things in a god game. It's funny, it's not the same as in every other game and you could have the option to kill elu and never invent a hair salon. At least for a long time.   That would be unique. Every game would be different. I was kinda hoping, that the (long long time ago) announced live news system would allow such kind of user generated quests or content... beside some premade main content events and quests.
     
    Imagine Elu with a hair salon bubble over her head... You pick her up... Put her on a sacrifice altar for everybody to see... Nobody would ask you for a hair salon after Elu dissolves into dust there. "Don't bother God with your personal bad hair day moments:" 
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